Daoists who advocate semen retention
The first line of attack comes from a rabidly anti-ejaculation splinter group within Daoism (or Taoism), a cult that often promotes itself as a kind of Daoist tantra. Often these people charge that I am not promoting "authentic" tantric sex because I teach people to have great orgasms, and lots of them.
These anti-ejaculation crusaders still hold the primitive belief that semen contains a man's "spiritual essence" and that retaining it will supposedly give him great magical power. "Spilling his seed," on the other hand, means giving away his psychic powers and draining his body of "vital energy."
Like some old-time Catholics, these Daoists also claim that excessive ejaculation will make you sick and drive you insane. Many of them even claim that a man is born with a fixed supply of semen, and that he will die as soon as he has used up his supply. They therefore see semen retention as a means to immortality as well as magic power.
(This seems to work for them about as well as alchemy ever did for alchemists. :)
(This seems to work for them about as well as alchemy ever did for alchemists. :)
The reality, of course, is that the human body produces semen on demand, and is capable of producing an essentially unlimited supply in response to use. The energy and other nutritional costs of producing it are trivial. It's no more "precious" than snot, and ejaculation is no more harmful than blowing your nose.
Furthermore, for most men there is no choice. If they do not have a sufficient number of orgasms through masturbation or sex, their bodies will eventually eject the old, stale semen via nocturnal emissions, or "wet dreams." So ejaculation in one form or another is inevitable.
Furthermore, for most men there is no choice. If they do not have a sufficient number of orgasms through masturbation or sex, their bodies will eventually eject the old, stale semen via nocturnal emissions, or "wet dreams." So ejaculation in one form or another is inevitable.
What is weirdest about many of these Daoists is that they are advocates of a particular style of ejaculation control that involves pinching the urethra shut where it emerges from the body at the base of the penis. Pressing hard on this so-called "Million-Dollar Point" prevents the semen from coming out, but it still has to go somewhere. Blocking the urethra just forces the semen to go backward into the bladder instead, where it gets urinated out the next time the guy goes pee.
So creating this kind of "retrograde ejaculation" does not in fact prevent ejaculation or prevent the loss of semen. It just redirects the semen into the bladder and then the toilet bowl. And it does nothing whatever to prevent the loss of a man's "spiritual essence," even if we make the unlikely assumption that a cloudy glob of proteins, sugars, and mucus could contain something so ethereal.
The real origin of this practice is a different, darker kind of magical belief, the idea that men and women were in a war for magical power, and that a woman could "steal" a man's power and weaken him by capturing and absorbing his semen.
So, at least in an age before condoms, the point of forcing retrograde emission was to prevent women from gaining possession of your semen for magical purposes.
This is reminiscent of voodoo, with its concern for not letting enemies get possession of your hair, fingernails, blood, and other bodily fluids. But it also reflects a particular strain in Chinese history in which Daoist monks were taught from early boyhood to distrust all women as evil seducers.
Karezza fans who think all orgasms are harmful
This is reminiscent of voodoo, with its concern for not letting enemies get possession of your hair, fingernails, blood, and other bodily fluids. But it also reflects a particular strain in Chinese history in which Daoist monks were taught from early boyhood to distrust all women as evil seducers.
Karezza fans who think all orgasms are harmful
I've run into a different kind of opposition from advocates of karezza, which is a kind of prolonged sexual intimacy and arousal with no orgasms. Tantra, by comparison, is prolonged sexual intimacy and arousal with intentionally delayed orgasms that are especially intense and enjoyable. So tantric sex and karezza have something important in common, and something equally important that divides them.
On the one hand, I've spent 24 years studying tantric sex and various other kinds of extended sex, so I have a strong sisterly interest in karezza. I've had a link on this blog from very early days to the website maintained by Marnia Robinson, the author of "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow," probably the top-selling pro-karezza book. I put it there to help people who come to my website looking for something more spiritual and less orgasmic than my practical, physical, and very orgasmic version of tantric sex.
On the other hand, I don't have much patience with the claims Robinson makes about orgasms being bad for you. The benefits she cites for karezza come from ANY activity that greatly increases the time that couples spend naked in each other's arms, touching and caressing and really attending to each other in a loving way.
The combination of physical contact and loving attention is powerful medicine. Babies who get too little of it literally die of neglect, even if they are otherwise well-fed and cared for.
Spending lots of time in a safe, comfortable place being adored and caressed by the most important person in your life will greatly elevate your production of oxytocin, the pair-bonding hormone. This will significantly reinforce your emotional bond with your partner and improve your mental and physical health. There's been enough research on the subject so we can say this with high confidence.
The problem with an orgasm, especially the male orgasm, is that it often signals a premature stopping point. Karezza gets results just by avoiding that premature ending. It helps couples learn to prolong sex and revel in the extended sensual touching that has been missing in their lives.
But then Robinson makes the false inference that the success of karezza comes from a complete ban on orgasms, not just a ban on premature endings. And that leads her to go a step further and try to "prove" that all orgasms are inherently destructive.
In doing so, she fudges the data repeatedly, by drawing on rat studies and other research that simply does not say what she says it does. She then buttresses this with anecdotes that center on some seriously atypical personalities.
More generally, karezza fans claim that having orgasms inevitably kills relationships, and there's simply way too much evidence on the other side for that argument to be credible. About 30-35% of marriages in the U.S. end up with couples who are still intensely in love with each other after many decades together. And nearly all of these loving, long-term marriages feature regular orgasms. If the karezza theories were true, that would be impossible.
Karezza advocates do have a valid starting point. It's true that a lot of straight couples get in the habit of having very little foreplay and brief, penis-centric sex that ends with the man’s orgasm – and nothing for the woman. And it's true that that will cripple many relationships. We also know that if a relationship is in serious trouble and one partner has become averse to sex, the couple will often benefit from sharing a lot of loving, sensual touch with no genital contact or sex.
Karezza advocates do have a valid starting point. It's true that a lot of straight couples get in the habit of having very little foreplay and brief, penis-centric sex that ends with the man’s orgasm – and nothing for the woman. And it's true that that will cripple many relationships. We also know that if a relationship is in serious trouble and one partner has become averse to sex, the couple will often benefit from sharing a lot of loving, sensual touch with no genital contact or sex.
I went through just such a period when I was 30, and we got out of it by doing sensual massage and agreeing to avoid all genital contact for several months and then all penetrative sex for several more. This is the standard prescription for Sensate Focus Therapy (SFT), one of the most successful forms of couple's therapy for a variety of sexual dysfunctions.
So there's a kernel of truth behind the claims of karezza enthusiasts. Avoiding orgasms for a period of time can be beneficial for couples who are in trouble, for the exact same reason that SFT works: it provides lots of prolonged loving touch without the focus on the penis-centric script that focuses "normal" sex on the man's orgasm, and ends when he comes. And the fact that karezza can work as a form of DIY sex therapy guarantees it a certain number of enthusiastic new recruits and endorsements.
But the mistake is trying to explain those successes with some convoluted mishmash of bad science about how orgasms themselves are destructive. And it's just not true that orgasms themselves are harmful. Under some circumstances, it can be helpful to suspend the standard penis-centric orgasm-driven sexual script for a period of time as therapy. But that has nothing to do with what couples need to do to maintain a good physical and emotional relationship over the long haul.
To sum it up
The karezza advocates are nowhere near as bad as the Daoists. They stretch the truth, but at least their theories have some connection to reality. However, the final conclusion they reach just isn't supported by the available facts. Karezza may be successful in helping some couples get back on track after a slide into a "dead bedroom," but the bottom line is that having lots of orgasms together is a good thing, not a bad thing, for the vast majority of long-term couples.
As for the Daoists' health claims for semen retention, there is zero evidence to support the idea that ejaculation is unhealthy. Quite the contrary, the research on the frequency of masturbation and sexual intercourse suggests that frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer and is necessary for long-term reproductive health.
More importantly, orgasms play a strong role in promoting and sustaining the pair bond that holds every good relationship together. Denying them out of fear and hostility toward women, as the Daoists do, is obviously destructive. But it can also be destructive if the motive is somehow, mistakenly, to strengthen the bond between lovers through denial.
The key to strengthening that bond is not orgasm denial, but delay.
Edging – deliberately prolonging sex by extending the arousal period and delaying orgasm – has many virtues. For starters:
Edging – deliberately prolonging sex by extending the arousal period and delaying orgasm – has many virtues. For starters:
- It feels good!
- It prolongs the period of sensual contact and increases the production of oxytocin, the pair-bonding hormone.
- It demonstrates love and caring, the willingness to postpone gratification in order to increase your partner's pleasure.
- And it makes the orgasms themselves longer and more intense when they finally happen.
So my earnest advice is to ignore those who campaign against orgasms and enjoy your happy endings ... but take your time getting there.
Hi Shakti
ReplyDeleteI'm a 31-year-old male living in Brazil and begining to practive tantra. I'd like to thank you for all your blog posts so far. They helped me a lot. But I'm curious: I couldn't find anything about male prostate orgasms, which are rumored to be the most intense orgasms a man can have. Do you practice with your husband?
Thanks!
We've tried it, and it doesn't do anything for him. He eventually ejaculates, but without feeling any pleasure, so it's a waste of effort for us.
DeleteIf you find it enjoyable, then definitely figure out a good way to incorporate it into your tantra sessions. Or, if it just doesn't fit in your routine, save it for a special treat on non-tantra days.
Hello Shatki,
ReplyDeleteMy observations, as a male in his 30s, is that ejaculation definitively has a "draining" effect on my energy levels. This will be felt in the following hours/day after an ejaculation.
I work in IT and this draining effect is felt mentally and is quite apparent and affect focus and concentration.
Not to say that ejaculation/orgasm are bad, but I gotta be honest with my experience, they can have a negative impact. Of course, everybody is wired differently, so other guys may not have this problem.
I agree. But I think Nofap (no masturbation) is the worst of them all! There's thousands of videos on YouTube and there is even a website dedicated to it.
ReplyDeletewonderful information you are sharing on your blog. You have spottet how Mantak Chia ripped his text from BK and in the process he got few thing wrong. So you know his greatest contribution has been to repacket other peobles good material and adding few of his own mistakes in the process. Now when it comes to daoism and alchemy all the techniques you mention, above are MK version of daoism, here i would invite you to consider the obvious: the knowlegde of daoist arts he present in his books is not something he learned from a traditional daoist master, but he translated daoist books and added his own interpretation just like he did with BKs book, if you get your knowlegde of daoist methods from his books or from peoble who got their idears from his books, the understanding you have of daoism would be mistaken. Im here to advocating an open mind about the subject of daoism, it would be premature to close the case based on wrong assumtions coming from wrong sources. Thank you for your beautiful contribution to spreading usefull information about sexuality, god knows its needed
ReplyDelete"Kernel" of truth. Not "kernal".
ReplyDeleteFixed. Thanks!
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